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Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 01:44 am (UTC)
pretol: Correction of analogy:

My analogy of people drawing a rainbow and people drawing another human.

Remembering colors that are not there is more similar to drawing a stick figure with 3 legs (which is not human as many children will point out, because 3 legged creatures are obviously either aliens or mutants). Because technically a stick figure (2 legged, normal kind) is still a correct representation of a human being, just greatly simplified. A stick figure equivalent in the rainbow colors context is more like what most people do and that is naming 7 colors from an the infinite gamut.

Of course, my above ramble is a very right-brain approach.

3 legged stick figures are still humans, they're just weird humans. Just as rainbows with strange colors inserted. And that is a more left-brained approach, and I don't want to discredit it completely either :)

Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 03:54 pm (UTC)
mme_n_b: Re: Correction of analogy:

"But as far as your study goes, it has very little to do with the rainbow (if anything at all)."
Well - duh! Like I haven't been explaining this for two days now?

"Similarwise you can argue that Northern people are more sensitive to blue shades and southern people are more sensitive to red shades (probably true to a very small degree)."
Actually, hungry people are more sensitive to blue and fed people to red.

"So if all those people want to mark black and white as a part of the spectrum, well it's just plain wrong."

I wrote a really long answer to this one, involving Chinese people with long purple wings, which this correction made unnecessary. You got the point precisely right: what interests me is what kind of people draw "weird humans", and what kind of "weird humans" they draw, e. g. "do all fiftyish black male accountants draw stick figures with five legs?"

Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 07:46 pm (UTC)
pretol: Re: Correction of analogy:

Yes yes... I'm sorry I have a tendency to ramble for pages.

Well the reason I got originally fired up is because you started with an the "authoritarian" slant, suggesting that people get brainwashed into believing that a rainbow is a certain way (kazhdyi ohotnik zhelaet... i td).

Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 08:58 pm (UTC)
mme_n_b: Re: Correction of analogy:

They do. It's not actually that way. It's an infinity of ways. Or, rather, it has the potential to be perceived in an infinity of ways. But (for instance) if you know that there's nothing between blue and purple you may not notice the extra fifty shades of blue, and your experience will be poorer.

Fri, Oct. 12th, 2007 11:48 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous): Re: Correction of analogy:

Define "NOT KNOW". Doesn't know what? The name of the color? Or the eye is physically incapable of seeing the color? What is "knowing a color"?

Sat, Oct. 13th, 2007 07:20 am (UTC)
mme_n_b: Re: Correction of analogy:

Well, I wasn't the one who brought up knowing the name of the color. Personally, I think that every respondent knew enough to name or describe the colors they saw.

Wed, Oct. 17th, 2007 08:15 am (UTC)
talash: Re: Correction of analogy:

#FF0000 is red, but so is #FE0000 and #FA0000 and so on and so forth. I can distinguish between them, but the name for all of them is still "red". There might be a few synonyms for darker or brighter shades, but clearly there are more colors the eye can distinguish than there are names for them.

Wed, Oct. 17th, 2007 03:35 pm (UTC)
mme_n_b: Re: Correction of analogy:

Yes, that's why I allow qualifiers :) There is nothing in nature that cannot be expressed.